This is an episode of On The Record, a 30 minute TV show broadcast on KLAS TV in Las Vegas in 1987. K: Wow, Cool. We respect your privacy and take protecting it seriously, @2017 - PenciDesign. I would have blasted them to smithereens. So we talked about 15 minutes and packed everything up and, you know, we go out and hit the highway and theres the Lincoln County sheriff, all the sirens, red lights and everything. to build these spaceships with extraterrestrial technology. And the stories go on K: He was sort of his house was trashed, he basically left the governments employ. John Lear was born into a notable family with a respectable background. K: Oh my god Is your dad still alive? Please v. J: .he got involved in MJ-12 Remember who Bob Oeschler was? Now the reason they didnt want anyone to know about the body is because he was part of the secret astronaut corps. You know who the Ravens were: sheepdipped guys that flew in Laos. [11], That year, Lear agreed to attend a Pasadena, California Art College, but lost the $5,000 he had been given for tuition in the stock market. Those were my drawings. Dad was on the board of the Lovelace Clinic. What was his last name? [14] In August 1966, Lear was featured in the Wichita Press after he piloted a LearJet carrying the rock band The Byrds and the trip inspired them to write a song about the plane. Fantastic work at Stanford and University of K: Well, hes involved with something to do with zero point J: Absolutely, yeah, and he keeps sending all this stuff on zero point energy and K: and you just don't believe it. K: Yeah, that sounds right. [39] Air Force Sergeant Richard C. Doty was also involved, said Moore, though Moore thought Doty was "simply a pawn in a much larger game, as was I. You think thats a scam? 18 World Speed Records; A worked for 28 different aviation companies; A won most of the distinctions awarded by the Federal Aviation Administration: airplane transport rating, flight instructor, ground instructor, flight . Clifford, he knows everything. So was Jimmy Doolittle. en.wikipedia.org. He was 79 years old. Its actually almost two and a half hours of intense testimony. I ran into a man who says hes the son of the Guy who pioneered the Learjet. Bob Oeschler was really a neat guy. : L: It sure has. Traffic was cleared from the Golden Gate Bridge in anticipation of a forced landing. I mean, our government is so arrogant, you know. We'll eventually find out the truth anyway. Its been 40 years, so now theyre between 65 and 75, so a lot of them are still living. "John Lear, this is why we banned you!" And then post the reason why they banned me. (John Lear) John Lear has been captain of the US Air Force, retired Pilot of the CIA; Son of . It turns out my dad was right there. J: I said that on the internet I told what happened. J: To Oeschler? I forget what her name is. turn around carefully, because were in sand here and we dont want to get caught. Now its like 11 or 12 oclock. He was really proud of himself. But George Knapp, Ive known him for years. As an adult, he flew commercial planes as an airline captain for 35 years. We showed our drivers license. There is no doubt in my mind. We go down to Albuquerque and we look up Ernie Edwards and we talk with Ernie Edwards. During a 1964 hypnotic regression, Barney Hill became the first person to report recollections of Gray Aliens and Alien Abductions. The symposium was titled: "The UFO Cover-Up: A Government Conspiracy? By 1973, UFO mythology told of a UFO landing at Holloman Air Force Base;[24] A 'strikingly similar' landing served as the climax to 1977's blockbuster Close Encounters of the Third Kind. So we turned around to haul our asses out of there and it was obvious we werent going to get to the highway before they caught us. And I said, I dont understand. The New Republic argues Lear's theories were "the kind of thing no one took very seriously". The guy who worked at Dulce? Read through all the scenarios. K: Wow. It didnt happen. Below we countdown to John Lear . He was not born in December 3rd and he did not die on March 29th- he ans his wife have TWO daughters that COMPLETE their family- this is asinine reporting. Moore's claims sent shock waves through the small, tight-knit UFO community[citation needed], which remains divided as to the reliability of his assertions. Lets stop here. No, no. It was black as heck, you know, and we talked about Bennewitz, Ernie Edwards ah, whats the guys name Doty, Moore, the whole thing. . Kerry Cassidy: Youre saying they knew what happened? John Lear!This has just been posted to his fb profile. Currently, John Lear is 120 years, 9 months and 30 days old. He says, You know, its a good thing they didnt make any false moves. And I ended up leaving there and driving with Linda and, oh, while we were there, Tom Adams Do you know who Tom is? Anytime John Lear talks conspiracies, it's time to shut up and listen. I think it and Ill take the blame if its not. One night he comes in and sits down. In 1962 they had vehicles that could not go faster than the speed of light, like the vehicles of the ETs, but fast enough to reach the moon in 1h. He talks about the non-terrestrial officers and I mean, the story just fits together. I dont know if the guy was whacked out or what but he said they have piles of, like, cocaine, and theyre drugging people to get them to work there, basically. And of course theres no way; that thing is too big and too cumbersome. [15], In 1968, Air Force personnel from Hamilton Air Force Base launched a rescue effort to help Lear land after heavy San Francisco fog interfered with landing. We cannot disconnect ourselves from the things he writes about. On the last day of March news began to spread around online UFO circles that John Lear, one of the most controversial figures in the field in the last 35 years, passed away during his sleep on March 29th at his home. J: No there could be, there could be. I think John Lear used his CIA tactics to find a physicist at the bar next to area 51 and got him drunk and befriended him and he spilled the beans. And I thought that me and theres only three guys in the world that knew where it was and reading George and stuff on ATS, he claims to know where it was but I dont know whether he does or not. K: You think so? So the next night was March 29th and I was on a trip with America Transair in Cleveland and that was when I called Bob Tuesday night and I said, You know, Im in Cleveland and I wont be able I said, What are you guys doing? He said, Were going fishing. And I said, Ah cool. And wheres the gun? Tonight John talks about a universe that is much bigger than most of us realize. He ran, put out that flyer called Stigmata. It was really something. I dont know if youve seen my stuff on the internet about K: Yes. And why do you think that the government leaves you alone? This is the F-19 which is supposed not to exist. He thinks me and Gene are totally nuts. He even worked for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) for a brief amount of time. They both came out on the public record. Joe McBride / Getty Images. I have one or two 4x5s of those. J: We talked for days, weeks, months. Thats my typewriter. Lear argues that "Germany may have recovered a flying saucer in 1939" and discusses the 1946 American military investigation into the Ghost rockets reported over Sweden. These are some of the data that he contributes in an interview he gave on the Coast to Coast radio program: In 1953, an ET ship crashes, and they capture the ET (called EBE 3 Joe Road, also confirmed by Dan Burisch) who helps the US Governments air forces. It was obvious. Id get out of my airplane at 10 o'clock at night and wed drive until 6 in the morning. And you might want to follow this up because I cant do it. And it was a hand-written note about a place called Dulce and the person knew somebody that worked there and talked about Dulce. K: How much time was that? Designed and Developed by PenciDesign. I didnt see it land but I know the guys who did. I said, You mean its real? He said, Yeah John, its real. So then at that exact time I ended up, I was based, in New York for this airline, and I called Budd Hopkins and I said, Id like to talk to you. OK. I came back from a trip in Europe that was crazy. J: No, and the reason is because I want somebody to come to me and say, I know who it was, and then say the name. He is survived by his wife, Francesca Bartley, a landscape designer (and a daughter of Deborah Kerr ), whom he married in 1975 . Im taking my gun (he had a 9mm) and Im going out into the desert. He said, When they leave Ill come back. So we stop, he goes out into the desert, I take the telescope and start setting it up and they skid to a stop. J: My what? And I looked at her and said, Linda, how can this be happening to us? I know those A-7s. 18 World Speed Records;A worked for 28 different aviation companies;A won most of the distinctions awarded by the Federal Aviation Administration: airplane transport rating, flight instructor, ground instructor, flight navigator, engineer, aircraft dispatcher, airframe powerplant mechanic, parachute rigger, and tower operator;During the 80s and 90s he began to speak revealing confidential information. It has been a long absence. And theyre all standing around with machine guns at port arms and actually I ran up the vehicle and put my hands on the top of it and said, What are you guys doing here, whats going on? They said they need to see my ID. That typewriters out in the garage. In order to do this, extraterrestrial collaboration has been necessary, and many buildings on the moon were already there before the operations began. K: Are you familiar with Hal Puthoff? RIP to the Legend John Lear. The truth is down there! J: Probably but I dont have the slightest memory. A year after the interviews were released, a couple of important things happened in Bob Lazar's life. What he said he said there was a door. That didnt mean you were supposed to tell all your friends about the flying saucers. J: Then I went back up K: So Clifford Stone, does he know about the Dulce situation as well? Were just developing and those guys, the Grays, are just here monitoring, seeing everythings going OK. The Ufologist Bill Moore was scheduled as the main speaker, and he refused to submit his paper for review prior to the convention, and also announced that he would not answer any follow-up questions as was common practice. Subscribe. By deadorkicking.com Editorial Team. Hes the one that knew about stuff, Manzano Weapons Storage. He wasnt! Thats part of the Serpo story as well. axant carisoprodol in his system, according to Clark County Coroner John Fudenberg. And so supposedly they almost started a war over finding they couldnt do last rites on the body of their fellow astronaut. All of us just want to go home, we just want to make a living and go home and be with our family and kids. Lear, John P., Jr. John P. Lear, Jr., died suddenly at his home on Tuesday, May 8, 2018. Support Project Camelot - make a donation: Donations are not tax deductible for U.S. citizens. I havent seen that information come up. Together, the duo also a daughter named Allison that completes his family. DK. Unlike most of the convention's attendees, Moore did not stay at the same hotel that was hosting the convention. Oeschler saw that. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. John Olsen Lear (December 3, 1942 March 29, 2022), son of Learjet magnate Bill Lear, was an aviator who set multiple records, later flying cargo planes for the CIA during the Vietnam era. Hes got some good ideas, hes done some tremendous work but he always seems to be about three years behind me. [26] So if youre standing on Reticulum 4 you can see both suns, Zeta 1 and Zeta 2. Neptune is not a big gas giant, its just like Earth. We played soccer with them. Thats all we want to do. Yeah weve been there. They pick up kids when theyre 3 to 4; they pick them up when theyre 7 to 8; then once theyre 13 to be sure everythings OK. Thats all their job is. But later he got what we call UFO disease. And UFO disease is something that we get we are just so in demand as speakers and weve already told whatever we know, so now we got to make up a little more to keep the interest. I interviewed Gary McKinnon and he tapped into that. Somebody had donated a condo in Crestone that had been used by the Aspen Institute for their get-togethers and studies. But he was so forthright and, to me, so honest. Point is I think its unlikely that their is another person surnamed Lear that also started a Jet company. K: What about Serpo? Kerry Cassidy: We were ushered into John's amazing study. You seem to have known just about everybody who was anybody at the time. Anyway, we turn off at Corona, and we go over this little road, then a dirt road over towards the main road that comes down from the highway to Roswell. [3], John Olsen Lear was born on December 3, 1942, to industrialist and future Learjet founder Bill Lear and his wife Moya Marie Olsen Lear. I used to go down to on Saturday mornings to Brownie Browns Dance Studio where I took tumbling, ballet, and tap dancing. [10] His first solo flight was at 16, and in 1960, Lear was hired as a pilot and public relationship representative by his father's company. They went to Zeta Reticuli. Norman Lear was born on July 27, 1922 and is 100 years old now. [2] In the second half of the 1980s, Lear was "probably the most influential source" of UFO conspiracy theories. Hed come over whenever he got back and tell me what he saw. He charged into this, with me. Trending: Former world Darts champion, Ted Hankey, Charged with Sexual Assault, Aged 54, Everything on his Family and Wife. Mirage Men author Mark Pilkington later described Lear's Statement as "a perfect synthesis of the Aquarius and MJ-12 disinformation and the chthonic [subterranean], paranoiac horrors of Paul Bennewitz. J: [showing a round shiny object: a model of the back-engineered UFO power plant from Area 51] Joe Vananetti made this and its just exactly like it was. And its not that I didnt believe it. I just did an interview with him. We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. He says, I was at Bentwaters. Were you there in1980? He said, I was there. K: OK. Thats fabulous stuff. I have a drawing here of when he told me that. They were great 8x10 prints. Related Posts. Thats when I saw, you know, the degree from MIT and the degree from Cal Tech. B: Theres Castello, and theres Schneider. This has now been closed to public access but somebody took a lot of care taking some incredible photos. They sent him to Albuquerque to form the Lovelace Institute. Aliens are here, and they're not our friends, John Lear says -- Part 1 [12], In 1965, Lear was employed by the Paul Kelly Flying Service when its founder was killed while piloting a LearJet. In an interview, former CIA pilot John Lear stunned the world by disclosing appearances, names, and details about the location of millions humanoid aliens residing on the moon. Do you know what his involvement is? The two major figures in what has been called the "dark side . I have the tape thats labeled March 22nd and we videotaped all that was going on. You can see it. I said, Great. So the next day he and Gene and his wife Jackie, yeah, there was 4 of us, get in my motorhome in the front here. Its too bad people, you know, when they look at these stories, its either right or its wrong. She's currently 94 years old. J: what I assume Gus Grissom said: OK assholes, you killed us, were dead, the fire could have been prevented and you didnt do it. He had a long time to say that and all the Apollo records, all this stuff, the accident stuff, and a lot of things happened and the emails that Ive gotten from Clark on it, you know, are very circumspect, very careful about what he says. Lear and the crewmate made a record flight around the world between 23 May and 26 May in 1966.Lear was also highlighted at the Wichita Press. According to the Statement, the US government covered a "total, thorough and sweeping cover-up to include the use of 'deadly force.'". I havent seen them around but they may be around, I dont know. J: Oh yeah. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Dont worry about it. He said, No, Id like to find out. So he comes back the next day and says, John, your phone is tapped at the mainframe. He said, I went to my boss and told him about it and he said, If you want to keep your job, you keep your mouth shut. K: Wow. According to Cooper's first post, in 1966 he was serving aboard the USS Tiru when he and fellow Navy personnel witnessed a metal craft "larger than a football field" repeatedly enter and exit the water. Thank you for your help. On Serpo. J: Oh, oh, yeah, OK. K: . and was basically found to be cloned. Norman Lear and Bud Yorkin were new to sitcoms when they started working on an American version of "Till Death Us Do Part," a British show about a grouchy racist and his long-suffering family . I had my big suitcase and my flight bag and something else and instead of going to the apartment I lived at and dropping it all off I went to Budds house. I used to think it was evil. Unfortunately the videotape was sitting on the bumper while all this was going on but we videotaped afterwards, the conversation about seeing it. But Bob one day walked into EG&G and says, How do I get into the saucer program? Or something like that. John Lear, Son of Bill Lear (Founder, Creator of Learjet Corporation), an accomplished and highly experienced pilot, explains how 9/11 was a 'scam'. So K: Are you at liberty to say? K: Oh J: He used to talk about this all the time but not in too much detail. pic.twitter.com/c5H4iqcfbo. According him, John has estimated a population of 250 million humanoid aliens live on the moon. The document describing a secret government committee, Majestic 12, making a treaty with Gray aliens, only to later realize they've been deceived by the aliens. Your generosity enables us to continue our work. This is John Lear's original statement on the alien presence, as posted to Paranet on Dec. 29, 1987. K: Is he still alive, by the way? Although, she's since retired from the acting industry. The Statement lists three saucer crashes: one near Roswell. Nevada aviator John Lear's death Tuesday night has sent ripples through the worlds of aviation and conspiracy theories. Lear testified at the Civil Aeronautics Board investigation into the crash. "[39] One of their goals, Moore said, was to disseminate information and watch as it was passed from person to person in order to study information channels. [17][18][19], In 1980, Lear was covered in local press when he lost a billing dispute with his natural gas provider. So, Gary. John Lear, a distinguished pilot and ufologist, discusses specific encounters with UFOs in an interview with investigative journalist George Knapp. K: Thats amazing. And this person gave me pencil drawings of either what she had seen in the video or what Castello had described to her. Youve got to read it. Bob sat right with Gene Huff. And I thought I was there for the phone call. I have so many files out in the garage, legal files, four drawer cabinets, two or three just full of this stuff. And hes in there for life. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); The Captain Thomas Mantell UFO Incident: A Look Back 75 Years Later, Former world Darts champion, Ted Hankey, Charged with Sexual Assault, Aged 54, Everything on his Family and Wife, Former world Darts champion, Ted Hankey, Charged with S*xual Assault, Aged 54, Everything on his Family and Wife, 5FM legendary and Veteran Broadcaster Ricky Banda died at aged 72, Cause of Death, Wife and Family. He came up, we talked and he told me At those times Bill was totally sane and rational. Man From Wyoming Travelled 163,000 Light Years From Earth With Alien Named Who Built the Egyptian Pyramids & How Did They Do It? In 1989, the pair issued an "indictment" demanding that the US "cease aiding and abetting and concealing this Alien Nation which exists in our borders. So Im thinking this is like 85 or something. According to the narrative, Truman formed a group of twelve insiders, known as Majestic 12, to investigate the matter. Its to keep us all riled up and worried and everything. And we started looking. So one day I get on the bus after dancing school and I get to where Im getting off at my house 30 minutes later. John insists that this is flown covertly by the Navy Kerry: and what would seem to be the planes he loves, the planes hes flown. Lear was widely known for his claims about UFOs and Area 51, but also for a lifetime of daring exploits in everything that could fly. Why didnt you find out whats going on and then tell me about it? He said, No, youve taken so much crap over this thing that I tell you I saw it. He was there. Now do you want to work here or not? And Bob was noncommittal. In an interview with the famous mystery programCoast to coast, John Lear, a retired CIA pilot, revealed such amazing things as having secretly gone to the Moon since 1962, which have been on Mars since 1966 and that NASA uses technology from alien spacecraft crashed on Earth in 1953 (the EBE-3). He says, Bob, dont go out to the airport. He was arrested in 1990 for aiding and abetting a prostitution ring. Anyway, that went on for several months. As per our current Database, John Lear is still alive (as per Wikipedia, Last update: May 10, 2020). I see it! Yes, John Lear was the son of Bill and Moya Lear and had a brother named David Lear. J: Its hilarious. As per him, the first journey to Mars too place in 1966. I dont bother. She's since had a long and successful career, even earning herself a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Hes got televisions all over the wall. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. We contacted the state veterinarians office about [this particular disease, whatever it was]. Anyway, later Linda contacted someone who found out, no it couldnt have been that disease because there would have been a 50 mile cordon around there. [4] His second and third birthday parties were covered in the "Society" page of an Ohio paper. As per him, the first journey to Mars too place in 1966. Here they are, theyre building they think theyre going to build a shield against the Grays or whoever. J: Yes. Hes alive? He said, Yep. And he told me the circumstances, that he was being led down a corridor, escorted by guards on each side. Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. Hes the one that knew about the black ship, the Grays, the Archuleta Mesa. J: The Dan Burisch story is simple but its complex. K: But whats Bobby Ray Inman got to do with all this? You can see where that 45 minutes fit into there, where they took that body out. I have a friend of mine at the Goldmine. Its all real. So we spent a couple hours here. He said, All I want to know is why there are 5 people in this car now and at the test site there were only 4. Then we went outside, stood outside and looked up at the stars and I said, Well, if I want to go to Zeta Reticuli, do I go [gesturing in different directions] which way do I go? He said, This way. [gesturing to the right] and was saying how they take off and he had an explanation for why they had to go to the right first or whatever. (John Lear), In 1966 they landed on Mars, and since then they have already explored most of the planets in our Solar System, and they have found that there is life very similar to ours in all of them (other sources that confirm, David Wilcock and Henry Deacon), The 70s: before NASA began to erase without leaving a trace the photos taken by Apollo 8, 10 and 11 and published in 1971 in the NASA book SB2-46, you can see: a city, a space base, tubes, roads, vegetation, air, an atmosphere, 66% gravity with respect to the Earth, there is light, mining operations, a nuclear reactor,(John Lear). There was all kinds of evidence that it happened. But it was in the winter and I had this 2-wheel drive and I tried to go up this back road up to the mesa and I nearly went off into the canyon, so I never got up there. He jogged my memory. J: I didnt realize that. Its no big deal. K: Except that they were doing genetic engineering and they took the parts of one astronaut, the body parts, and were cloning him. It has flown in more than 150 test aircraft. Lear embraced controversy, championed UFO transparency. [21], Lear has been described as "a divisive figure whose claims often crumbled under scrutiny."[22]. Bill Lear designed the Lear Jet and later the Lear Fan, after the death of Bill in the late 70s, Moya Lear finished the Lear fan on December 32. It could have been an hour or so. Aside from his success as a TV writer and producer, Norman Lear is an outspoken supporter of the First Amendment and liberal causes. And a few days later he said, Im not going back to work there. And we said, Why? And he said, Because the last time I went on that 737 he said, I can remember going up the boarding ramp K: Oh no J: . and I can remember coming back down the boarding ramp but I cannot remember anything that went on after that, or between that. He said, I dont want to work under those conditions. Harvard scientist wants to launch an investigation Anunnaki Are Here Now! K: So you know Bill Cooper. Its that, you know, its yeah, well, maybe, you know. J: They don't bother anybody with second hand information. J: Absolutely. Does he have a Brother named David? He said he believed Bennewitz. [4][5] He was named after his maternal grandfather, famous comedian John Olsen. The Statement argues that many in the "original group" of insiders committed suicide, most notably James Forrestal. I remember you were here 20 years ago in a Lear jet. And I said Really? He said: Yeah, you brought in steaks for Dean Martin and his girlfriend. And I remember, yeah, I was flying charter. So he called Dr. Teller. J: Zero point energy? K: Oh, really? The Most experienced aerospace pilot in known history. At least one alien was found still alive and he, along with his badly burned bodies, were flown to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, home of the infamous 'Hanger . When we grow out of that well be able to go and play with everybody else in the universe, which is a great big wonderful place. They were building several buildings on the Moon. I listened to their story, spent a lot of time with them, looked at all his pictures, all the stuff showing flying saucers taking off in the Manzano Weapons Storage area, and landing, you know. And the government stole two of them and one of them is in a secret place in Vegas. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I can show you the place where I went to go up there. Lear remained a prominent voice in the UFO conspiracy theory community until his death. But were continually going after the Moslems you know and continually being, you know, this is a threat and this is a threat. K: Oh, do you? Lear was widely known for his claims . Well anyway, at one point the saucer stopped and I got it nailed in. Hes a very mysterious man. Its the 4th planet from Zeta Reticuli 2. I dont remember being conscious of one hour, two hours. Then Bill Cooper called and said, I can vouch for I forget what he said, 50 per cent, or 100 per cent of what John Lear says and so I invited Bill Cooper up. Were driving down to Roswell, and were about 10 miles north of Corona and here comes this A-7, just coming down and buzzing us and everything. Randy Lovelace was a surgeon in Wright Patterson when the Roswell thing happened. [8][9], In 1956, Lear flew his first flight at age 14. I dont think it is today. The people that originally ran that mine, one of the guys is in jail up at Winnemaka, and one of the guys thats in there is a security guard and he tells them. and the reason a security guard from Area 51 is in there is because he started to talk. Norman Lear Birthday. And basically what I asked him was, What was the name of the fourth astronaut? And he never gave it to me, but I found out from other sources who it was. Moreover, he was the former CIA pilot and known for his UFO conspiracy ideas and Lear has also reported to have flown secret missions for the CIA which is between 1967 and 1983.

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