Youve worked tirelessly for years on your genealogy and youve finally gotten your tree back to the Great Migration. Apparently a violent drunk, he terrorized the neighboring town of Tavistock for a number of years. Edward III (r. 1327-1377) | The Royal Family Edward III (r. 1327-1377) Edward III was 14 when he was crowned King and assumed government in his own right in 1330. Elizabeth is the daughter ofHumphrey (Tuchet) Audley[unknownconfidence] 7. But it wasn't about being related to a medieval king. T 1. 2nd ed., (Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2011). Australian immigrants in the 19th century are a very mixed bag in terms of how hard they are to trace back, so I should not exaggerate how difficult they are. Richard is the son of John Lake Now you are ready to cross the Atlantic and enter the world of medieval genealogy. 16. Questionable Gateway Ancestors) of Henry Peck are Robert Peck and Joseph Peck. George is the son ofAgnes (Stewart) Maxwell[unknownconfidence] Dorothy is the daughter ofMary (Fiennes) Fiens[unknownconfidence] 12. Sarah is the daughter ofBridgett (Fitts) Window[confident] Are Hugh Jones and others "Gateway" ancestors? Andrew is the son of Katherine Gordon [unknown confidence] 16. Joan is the daughter of John Beaufort KG [unknown confidence], 16. 1. Philip, of Rowley, Massachusetts IV:213, Nelson, Thomas, of Rowley, Massachusetts IV: 213, Otis, Rose (Stoughton), of Dover, New Hampshire Listed between end of III and start of IV, Oxenbridge, Frances (Woodward), non-immigrating wife of Rev. The Ryther marriage is totally impossible. 15. Thank you. I've disconnected Richard Lake from his erroneous parents. This is perfectly normal. "We've all got the same number of ancestors, we just don't always know their names," she says. Robert is the son ofThomas Constable MP[unknownconfidence] She is my 10th great grandmother. 12. Genealogy of the Wheatley or Wheatleigh family. Rev John Oxenbridge BIRTH 30 Jan 1609, Daventry, Daventry District, Northamptonshire, England DEATH 28 Dec 1674 (aged 65), Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts, USA BURIAL Kings Chapel Burying Ground, Biography== Humphrey Davie, of Boston the son of Sir John Davie, MP, 1st Baronet of Creedy and Juliana Strode* Humphrey married 1. 21. 11. 1. 17. Archibald III is the son of Archibald Campbell [unknown confidence] How could a modern-day comedian turn out to be related to a medieval monarch? The Baronial Order of Magna Charta (BOMC) keeps its own list of Gateway ancestors that descend from the barons who forced King John of England to sign the document at Runnymede on 15 Jun 1215. Supposedly related to royalty. 20. Joan is the daughter ofThomas Percy[unknownconfidence] 3. Duncan is the son of Patrick Mckie [unknown confidence] Hi Joe and thank you for the work you are doing on Edward III! Most populous nation: Should India rejoice or panic? GARDs short for Gateway Ancestors of Royal Descent and GANDs Gateway Ancestors of Noble descent have been the subject of intense academic research. Daniel is the son of Iver McKay [uncertain] 22. 18. 7. 4. The secret mine that hid the Nazis' stolen treasure. 10. Lionel is the son ofEdward (Plantagenet) of England[confident]. Constance is the daughter ofEdmund (Plantagenet) of Langley KG[confident] This trail tells us that Edward III is the, Thanks, that made my day! In 1337, Edward created the Duchy of Cornwall to provide the heir to the throne with an income independent of the sovereign or the state. William is the son ofHarrison Henry[unknownconfidence] 22. The origins ofCaptain Thomas Savageare not known from what I can tell and needs to be disconnected from the Savage of Rock Savage line. Benjamin is the son ofJohn Absalom Knox[unknownconfidence] Fast Facts: Wallis Simpson and if you don't like thatlineuse my 4th great grandmothers line! I appreciate it. Mary is the daughter ofElizabeth (Mansfield) Wilson[unknownconfidence] Duncan M'Kie-his son was born in Bute but he was born in Minnigaff "Kirkcudbrightshire", which is a historic part of Galloway, far away from Bute. WebDescendants of the Illegitimate Sons and Daughters of the Kings of Britain There were often just as many (and sometimes more) illegitimate royal offspring than legitimate ones. 13. I have Charlemagne many times. WebHawes, Edmund, of Duxbury and Yarmouth, Massachusetts III: 272 Haynes, Mabel (Harlakenden), of Hartford, Connecticut III:225; III:274 also 95. John is the son ofJohn (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG[unknownconfidence] The problems tend to start back in the old countries. John Oxenbridge of Boston, Massachusetts IV: 300; V: 395, Oxenbridge, Rev. John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England [confident]. Unsourced,I would split the line here as well; going backwards they might appear in a Scottish source. This trail tells us that Edward III is the20th great grandfatherof Janine. According to the research, Markle, a Los Angeles-born American citizen, is a 24th generation descendant of King Edward III. Leave it to my ancestors to miss the boat, as it were. New gateway ancestors: The Duncanson sisters of New Netherland? 14. I'll keep looking. 18. Thank you Kirk Hess for correcting the profile of Elizabeth Fairfax. The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States (Baltimore, 2008) The 2004 edition is, Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William R. Beall, and Kaleen E. Beall. In 1369, Queen Philip, beloved among the people and among the courtiers, died, to whose opinion the King Joan is the daughter of John Beaufort KG [unknown confidence] Joan is the daughter ofJohn (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG[unknownconfidence] Patrick is the son of Patrick James McKie [unknown confidence] But its not right. Arthur, Prince of Wales (1486-1502) 3. 8. 14. 9. He has an extensive write-up by Anderson in the Great Migration Series. Edward is the son of John Sutton [unknown confidence] Copied here to make easier to research and comment on: 3. For example Order of the crown of Charlemagne includes a total of 390 immigrants of which 143 came to New England: Perhaps the fight for liberty is more your style? What helps is this was a really close community they all are witnessingeachothers weddings or baptisms, so that's also how we know and can figure out the relations between them all. Thomas is the son of Havisia (Neville) Heslarton Mary is the daughter ofMoses Embree[unknownconfidence] This line is so jumbled I am having a hard time figuring out where to begin (typical of Scottish pedigrees). Plantagenet Ancestry, 3 vols. Thomas is the son ofHenry Algernon Percy KG, KB[unknownconfidence] 4. Marcus is the son ofMargaret (Maxwell) Knox[unknownconfidence] http://globalfamilyreunion.com/king-richard-iii-dna I can't access that link It depends where you think one of the seemingly many NPEs occurred. Charles is the son of Robert Rigg [confident] Daniel is the son of Iver McKay [uncertain], 2. Best I'm getting is that Aske-59 is Mary not Jane and is the daughter of Aske-60. Mary; its possible her parents sources have some information about her husband. 11. Somerby fraud may affect some of the reported connections for people named Peck. Mid-Atlantic Gateway Ancestors of Proven Royal Descent, Southern Gateway Ancestors of Proven Royal Descent, Governor George Popham of Popham/Sagadahoc Colony of Maine, Southern Atlantic Gateway Ancestors of Proven Royal Descent, Abell, Robert, of Weymouth and Rehoboth, Massachusetts I: 107, Allin, Katherine (Deighton), of Roxbury and Dedham, Massachusetts II: 412, II: 477, Allyn, Margaret (Wyatt), of Cambridge, Mass. 16. This questionable line is the one I found for my paternal grandmother (this is the part of the trail that goes from colonial Massachusetts back to Edward III): 7. Mary White . Links to all of them can be found on this page. Mary (Macgregor) McKayBorn Argyll, unsourced. Richardson, Douglas. Stranger things have happened. 19. But -- I do not see the names on your list. Sir James Of Auchinbrek is the son of Archibald Campbell [unknown confidence] The most significant would be if John of Gaunt were not the son of Edward III which enemies suggested in his Margaret is the daughter ofGeorge Maxwell[unknownconfidence] They had a son Thomas but he married Elizabeth Whitmore and died in 1655. Steve is the son of [private mother] [confident] And this means that both of the alleged lineages I posted here are removed from WikiTree. [unknown confidence] For grins and giggles, I ran a relationship finder on Edward's son, John of Gaunt (Plantagenet) and had another positive hit through a completely different family line. Isabel is the daughter ofPeter Gerard[unknownconfidence] Do you have any evidence that connects the immigrant ancestor back to Scotland? 8. 74 phototypic plates under the auspices of the Netherland Ameria Institute Gift Of Mrs. Grace M. Vellema February 1993. 15. And her husband died a year before the first of the four was born. Daniel McKayEmigrant, born Kintyre (now called Tarbert), Argyll and Bute, Scotland, no parish. 10. https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.ide/120/mb.ashx, https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.ide/120.1/mb.ashx, Archibald (Campbell) fourth Earl of Argyll. I agree that this particular family lacks good evidence but they aren't as suspect as some of these other lines we can easily disprove. 7. 6. Maud is the daughter of Thomas Clifford [confident] 10. Eli is the son of Esther (White) Dickinson [unknown confidence] Joan is the daughter of Matilda (Clifford) Sutton Good to know. William is the son ofRalph Eure[unknownconfidence] (and unless my search skills were poorer than usual then there are some definite falsehoods). Doris is the daughter of Homer Ferry Dickinson [confident] Samuel, of Hull and Weymouth, MA, Treworgy, Penelope (Spencer), of ME, MA, and Newfoundland, Tyng, Elizabeth (Coytemore), of Boston, MA, Whiting, Elizabeth (St. John), of Lynn, MA, Whittingham, Elizabeth (Bulkeley), of Cambridge and Boston, MA, Williams, Frances (Deighton), of Taunton, MA, Wilson, Elizabeth (Mansfield), of Boston, MA. He killed Nicholas Slanning of Bickleigh, fled to France until his father-in-law secured a pardon. 16. 9. IMO, Mary Fiennes should be disconnected from everyone, and have the "doubtful existence" badge applied to her. 11. I still find it amazing that a bunch of South Carolina hill bullies could have such rich history. 21. Below is a list of 17th century new world immigrants with a recognized descent fromEdward III, king of England. "We're all part of a giant family," says Prof King. Martha is the daughter ofJohn Harrison Henry[confident] My great grandmother had other documents, mostly handwritten as well, the roof fell in during a rainstorm and destroyed it all. This corrects the line originally posted. Joan is the daughter ofJohn (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG[unknownconfidence] Using previous models of the numbers of descendants over the generations, he says as a broad estimate there could be two million people alive now related to Edward I. all relationships limit to paternal line limit to maternal line. https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#FrancoisJoyeusedied1556B. Only some of these are from New England and several lines may only include a few surviving descendants. Does your gateway ancestor appear below? Katherine is the daughter of Robert Gordon [unknown confidence], 12. Are the genes that put kings on thrones now producing a celebrity aristocracy? PS, is there another project related to Charlemagne? Thomas, of Cambridge, Ipswich, and Roxbury, Massachusetts II: 412, II: 477, Eaton, Mabel (Harlakenden), of Hartford, Connecticut III: 225; III: 27 4, Edwards, Agnes (Harris), of Cambridge, Massachusetts and Hartford, Connecticut III: 234, Farwell, Olive (Welby), of Concord and Chelmsford, Massachusetts V: 330, Giddings, Jane (Lawrence), of Ipswich, Massachusetts III: 552, Goddard, William, of Watertown, Massachusetts Ill: 92, Hackburne, Katherine (Deighton), of Roxbury and Dedham, Massachusetts II: 412, II: 477, Harlakenden, Elizabeth (Bosvile), of Cambridge, Massachusetts I: 444; III: 225; V: 355, Harlakenden, [Lieut. If your immigrant ancestor isnt on at least one of these lists chances are any royal ancestry you found for him or her on the Internet is bogus. 12. I'm related through, 1. 16. Joshua is the son ofMary Anna (Embree) Duncan[unknownconfidence] William is the son ofMary (Wilson) Danforth[unknownconfidence] 5. He died in 1437, and the fine brass memorial he ordered to be made, which shows himself and Joan, is still extant.17 By 1500 many English earls and barons were descendants of Edward III, and so were many Iberian noble families. By 1600 almost the entire English gentry were his descendants. Nathaniel Plummer is the son ofJesse Pearson[unknownconfidence] As you probably know, Col Hansen breaks the line in his article, but there is a lot of circumstantial evidence both ways. Joan is the daughter of Joan (Beaufort) Stewart [unknown confidence], 15. Francois says in a 1733 notarial act that he is the son of Robert de Joyeuse, but offers no proof of it. John is the son of Richard Lake . 7. 15. Includes citations for all sources. 9. Because the records of most ordinary families would not stretch back that far, most people would not know about their link. Lucy is the daughter of Anne (Heslarton) Buckton Turi King, professor of genetics at the University of Leicester, has researched Richard III and says there are "literally millions" of people alive now who are related to the immediate family of this 15th-Century sovereign. This trail tells us that Edward III is the18th great grandfatherof Kristina. 12. 5. But it was his sister Janet(c.1480c.1544)according to Scots Peerage v.2. 15. here is my ;Line and I know it's good! Gender: Female. Confirm for people well-documented and well-proven lines. 10. John is the son ofEdward (Plantagenet) of England[confident]. I personally agree with Hanson, and even if you allow some doubt about his translation, at best the line is still unlikely and unproven. Mary, Sir John Fitz(Fitz-23) was the son and heir of John Fitz MP, he m. Bridget Courtney the da. 10. These volumes contain 257 gateway ancestors of which 98 came to New England. Robert Loxley is the son ofGeorge Stubblefield[unknownconfidence] WebBenjamin Greene III (1764-) Elizabeth Greene (1766-) Hannah Greene (1768-1850) Lucretia Greene (1771-1851) Sarah Greene (1773-) Anne Greene (1774-) H Rebecca Hamblin (1694-1750) Ruth Haynes (1639-) Sheriff Daniel Hubbard (1706-1741) Russell Hubbard (1732-) Lucretia Hubbard (1734-) Daniel Hubbard, Jr. (1736-) Elizabeth Hubbard (1738-1808) 16. Further rigorous research and collaboration lead to the publication of five robust landmark works distilling all of the proven lineages and debunking countless more: Note that the five volumes of Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson published in 2013 includes all of the research previously published in both Plantagenet Ancestry and Magna Carta Ancestry plus some new lineages and some corrections. These are coming in much faster than I can research and answer. Humphrey Bogart (1899-1957) 6. One day you stumble upon one of your ancestors on an Internet tree. Robert is the son of Rachel Beauchamp [unknown confidence] Thomas is the son ofHelen (Langton) Southworth[unknownconfidence] They also did us no favors by missing the Mayflower so they aren't researched by Pilgrim scholars. Magna Carta Ancestry, 4 vols. He's interesting historically, but he's not really me. You start to learn about geopolitical competition and the political development of Britain in a way you never imagined. Joan is the daughter ofJohn Beaufort KG[unknownconfidence] So it should be Mary MacGregor and Catherine Cambell. 17. This trail tells us that Edward III is the 15th great grandfather of Daniel. So now youre reading peer reviewed journals to learn about your ancestors in England mostly yeoman, husbandman, minor clerics and various tradesmen. Agnes is the daughter ofAnne (Greystoke) Bigod[unknownconfidence] Jane is the daughter of Catherine (Neville) Mowbray [unknown confidence] Patrick is the son ofAndrew Agnew[unknownconfidence] 2. RJ, had suggested to me, Jane Finch, mother of Hawte Wyatt, for a trail I was working on to reach one of the Magna Carta Barons. James is the son of Katherine Agnew [unknown confidence], 8. Has anyone verified this? Moses is the son ofMary Southard[confident] Ann is the daughter of Edward Sutton [unknown confidence] Martha is the daughter of Dorothy (Wheatley) Bliss [unknown confidence] 14. Further, Nicholas' wife Martha was living at the time Thomas wrote his will -- but Thomas never refers to her in any way. William, of Boston, Massachusetts IV:641, Spencer, Agnes (Harris), of Cambridge, Massachusetts and Hartford, Connecticut III: 234, Stockman, John, of Salisbury, Massachusetts V: 49, Stratton, Anne (Derehaugh), of Salem, Massachusetts II: 440; V: 74, Stratton, John, Gent., of Kirkton Hall (in Shotley), Suffolk (husband of Anne Derehaugh of Salem, Massachusetts) V: 74, Taylor, James, Gent., of Boston and Lynn, Massachusetts V: 132, Throckmorton, John, of Salem, Mass., Providence & Warwick, Rhode Island, & New Jersey V: 155, Torrey, Rev. Anne is the daughter of Thomas John Heslarton 18. Anne is the daughter ofWilliam Harris II[unknownconfidence] It gets weird at this point - we have them having a da. Esther is the daughter of Nathaniel White [unknown confidence] and heiress was Mary, who m. 4 times: (1) to her ward Henry Percy, 9th Earl of Northumberland's brother Sir Allen Percy (d. 1613), (2) eloped with Thomas Darcy who d. shortly after the wedding, (3) Sir CharlesHoward, 4th son of the 1st Earl of Suffolk (d. 1626) and (4) Sir Richard Grenvlle (1600-1658) 1s. John is the son ofEdward (Plantagenet) of England[confident] "The Ancestry of William and Ann (Bagley) Brinton: Quaker Immigrants to Pennsylvania" in The American Genealogist, vol. Samuel, of Hull and Weymouth, Massachusetts III: 269, Torrey, Capt. Also Tavistock was a hotbed of Puritanism so it makes sense a poor Fitz cousin emigrated to Massachusetts. William is the son ofRichard Nance[confident] 9. and I believe my connection is a second bogus connection: it's via Martha Bliss, daughter of Thomas Bliss, married to Nicholas Ide. 5.1 First generations; 5.2 John of Gaunt's son King https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:Relationship&action=calculate&person1_name=Plantagenet-70&person2_name=Beauchamp-1979. is that William Gordon was not a good match for her - he wasn't a titled noble, and he didn't get a title out of the marriage. and heiress named Janet who m. (1) Lachlan Mackintosh of Dunachtan and (2) James Ogilvy of Cardell, with her lands being discharged to her half-brother Sir Robert of Glen (not in WT). 10. Nancy is the daughter ofBenjamin Knox[unknownconfidence] Colin is the son of Archibald (Campbell) fourth Earl of Argyll [unknown confidence] Prof King, a presenter on 18. Do you have a gateway ancestor from a population group other than American colonial immigrants (e.g. John is the son ofAnne (Eure) Mansfield[confident] Myrna is the daughter of Albert Marshall Rigg These Lake's are also in my ancestry. Thomas is the son ofAlice (Fitzhugh) Fiennes[unknownconfidence] Thanks Joe already looking for Thomas and others, and added the source with the records and transcripts + translations, to the post above. Sarah is the daughter ofAnne (Lumpkin) Eldredge[unknownconfidence] Perhaps we can also find sources to firm up the early American part of my line, as the wanderings from Pennsylvania to Ohio to South Carolina and Virginia seem a bit much for these first two generations: 7. Thank you for doing this Joe and Andrew and others. 5 Volumes (Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013) Available on Amazon. 20. Thanks, that made my day! I disconnected Jane (Reed) Niles from the parents she was attached to, so the first questionable line I posted above is now cut off. FYI: we've also been dinged before that Scottish wives generally didn't take their husbands last names until very recently. 14. 17. Because I match bigod. I have the same connection to all of the surety barons whose line hasnt died out. 5. 14. On both my parents. 5th ed. William is the son of William McCoy [confident] 21. Albert is the son of Charles Thomas Rigg [confident] Thomas lost his parents who had a son Thomas who was not born in Cheshire, married someone else and never emigrated. 13. But charlomagne was his 19th grandfather. Probably lots of people who are would not be able to prove it with documentary evidence," says Mr Holton. Well harsh thing is I would like if someone could help find documents because all the information was from a family bible that Do esnt exist anymore. Peter Bulkeley, of Concord, Massachusetts I: 111; II: 10, Bulkeley, Grace (Chetwode), of Concord, Massachusetts II: 10, Bulkeley, Rev. Henry is the son ofHenry Percy KG[unknownconfidence]

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