Keep in mind that an entire teardown would be in the cards. However, its brake is still engaged. Hes a Wyotech Graduate, U.S. Army Veteran, and currently holds a Kubota Master Technician certification. Dont get it red hot ,just heat . When the implement's PTO shaft engages the PTO driveshaft of the tractor, the shaft turns 1,000 times per minute. Hes a U.S. Army Veteran and holds a Kubota Master Technician certification. Schedule the oiling and greasing of your implements and the PTO shaft to keep its universal joints in top-notch condition. When the tractors PTO driveshaft engages with the implements PTO shaft, the shaft rotates around one thousand times every minute. If that doesn't work, try an easy out in a slow drill press (in reverse, of course). My next effort will be to heat it with my TIG torch, see if red hot does the trick. Dave When I say rearword I mean the shaft come out towards the back of the tractor. I have removed four bolts on the back of tractor that covers the Pto shaft. A little oil on each sometimes helps. Let the lube sits there for a while. How Can You Remove the PTO Shaft from Your Tractor? Was thinking pull the shaft out first then figure out how to get the shaft seal out. "@type": "Organization", Additionally, the tractors male driveshaft comes with splines that readily engage with the implements female driveshaft. I then was able to get under the tractor and . Stay tuned for episode 3 coming up later. The thing is, you need to dismantle any stubborn locking mechanism. It isn't that old that their mechanics can't figure it out or tell you how to do it. Wondering if your driveline is too long. They may well be smarter though resulting in less work. Afterward, you can set to ON the PTO switch. Sometimes you can tighten the bolts that go through the springs, (usually about 6 ) tighten each bolt an the same amount of turns to keep pressure even. Service Man Vic returned a call that I had placed to him. kubota bx2380 with brush hog,scoop,bellie mower and road grading, I have a new tractor which we have not been able to remove the brush hog from the tractor as the drive shaft keep pulling apart in the middle, You might have to shove it forward first, then pull back on the collar and pull the shaft off. Then the pto shaft comes out the back. The one on the left is the PTO shaft for my brush hog and the one on the right is for my wood chipper. If it doesnt budge, pour more oil onto it. it that isnt working,stop. Refrain from damaging the tractors PTO gears, for it is more expensive to replace than the coupler. "author": { If its still stuck, you can try to heat a bit the periphery of the coupler. You will see the PTO selector switch and lever on the operators seat right side. Kameryn is one of our Sales Representatives and also a certified MIG and stick welder. We carry a large selection of Kubota - PTO and Related Parts - PTO Parts - Tractor Parts. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Unhook any safety chains holding the shrouds on the shaft to the tractor. An easy pressure test on the control valve would reveal if this is the underlying issue or not. Place the vehicle's transmission gear in park. You're all ready to do work, back the tractor up to the brush hog, the three point lines up easily.but you can't get the darned PTO to extend. You need to rotate gear so they line and then pull the gear carefully off the shaft. The idea is to drive whatever locking mechanism That gear is really and truly 'on there'and doesn't want to come off in a conventional way. Thanks!! A PTO shaft also tends to get corroded in just a few months "text": "Any advice on how to remove the PTO shaft from the housing? Tip for How to Engage PTO on Kubota Tractor Properly: Do not attempt repair without a service manual for your specific tractor. The tin seal once heated would turn red real quick letting it be swagged with a punch while red letting it come out pretty easy with no more fooling around. The 3 jaws fit into the holes in the gear. If you've ever tried to remove a mower deck from a garden tractor or a lawn truck or a zero turn mower, those belt drive decks don't ever come on and off nearly as easy as these things do. The ends of the PTO shafts shown below connect to the tractor PTO and have universal joints to allow them to operate at a range of angles from the PTO. If you found yourself caught up in this mechanism, escape would be unlikely. One lever is for the clutch plate. Which way does the PTO shaft come out, front or backwards. There is a snap ring shown on the parts diagram, but it is shown holding a bearing in place that should come out with the rear flange. dismantling the assembly. The problem could be surfacing because of several things. Afterward, let it sit there for a while before attempting to pull it off the tractor. Looks like the seal could come out frontwards but I have no way to grab it or push it out. It has the plastic tube and plastic shield over the u-joint and I can't see what is going on there real well. There is a online manuals that you can get to see a exploded view of that machine. *The implement should be turned off at idle speed only.*. Next, look over the linkage to the rear gearbox. Pry Bar method to remove PTO shaft stuck on tractor Another method that helps when PTO shaft wont slide is dismantling the assembly. The seal sits inside that. Was prepared to split the tractor first thing in the morning. The manual makes it sound rather easy. Great ideas, appreciate them all. Another way to disengage the PTO shaft from the tractor is by dismantling the PTO shaft assembly. in case one of the fixes doesnt work. Is the key sheared ? L185F, Modern Ag Competitor 4 shredder, Rhino tiller, rear dirt scoop. tractor by chaining the PTO coupler then driving the tractor forward to create The PTO shaft transfers this mechanical power to the implement to make it operational. There will be instances when the abovementioned steps seem to fail in removing the PTO from the tractor. the suggested procedures. Spent part of the day dealing with a different dealership and service manager getting a kind of maybe sort of idea about splitting the tractor or going in thru the top underneath the seat. Do I take the gear off so the shaft comes out the front? This is because you dont need to step on the clutch pedal to accomplish it. Looks like the seal could come out frontwards but I have no way to grab it or push it out. That linkage may be bent and could certainly be prohibiting the clutch from engaging. Dave I have a question about the seal bore. Looks like it may have a pin or a bolt holding it on the shaft. If the PTO shafts sit outside waiting for the next episode of using it, it will indeed corrode. Dave Thanks, that makes sense. You should feel a pin sticking out --- press the pin in while pulling on the shaft at the same time. Glad you got it back together. Wiggle the shaft up and down and back and forth until the PTO shaft uncouples from the tractor's PTO spindle. Which way does the PTO shaft come out, front or backwards? "@id": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/" Some models have dual-speed, and some have single-speed with a neutral position. I used that pilot hole to center my 3 jaw puller. into the open space. When I went to take my bush hog off the tractor (M5400) I could not get the mower shaft to disengage from the PTO. "@id":"https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=farmall&th=1149189", We will look at a couple of easy tips, tricks, and ideas just It is just a tin frame unlike the heavy shafts and castings. I think autozone still rented them . Needless to say, you must be careful with the brute force Called dealer who sold me the seals but this tractor was to old for any of their people to have worked on. On a ford this simply pulls out of the tractor. So, if you have a hard time disengaging a stuck PTO shaft, you can find the methods mentioned above to disengage the PTO shaft handy. Good thing for the FEL, what a helper in getting the front drive shaft/tires out of the way. heavy hammer would be needed for this purpose- to make the seized PTO shaft Wear all recommended safety gear before doing all Kubota Tractor PTO Problems Tip: This problem occurs when a bush hog, for instance, is shut off when the power is cut from the PTO. day or two. Success!! Still wont budge. Frankly before I would have taken all that apart. I have a new B7500 with a mid mount mower. Many have broken that gear trying to get it off. It came with the bush hog attached and I took it off to attach the box scraper. Not much fun and still do not have pto out of tractor. Disconnecting your PTO shaft is now as simple as removing the plunger pin, then pulling the release on the spring-loaded shear/locking pin. You may need to turn to a mechanic with Kubota expertise. Let the lube sits there for a while. Throw down the PTO shaft and kick the tire hard enough that you will remember it for the rest of the day. I suggest you heat the gear so it will release from shaft and pull easy. of sitting. Another method that helps when PTO shaft wont slide is Its better to be safe than sorry. Look at the yoke and see if the tractor pto shaft is sticking all the way thru toward the u-joint. I had to cut of a large portion of the protective plastic shield (bell portion) because there was no way to get your hand inside it to push the release pin and slide the driveshaft off. Welcome. Nevertheless, your tractor should not be moving at a breakneck speed when engaging the PTO shaft. Do You Add Coolant to Radiator or Reservoir? Be prepared to apply and then reapply over a When the flow and pressure rise high enough, you experience the shut-off. And, of course, its best to call a qualified professional if you fear that youll come unstuck. When a PTO shaft jams, it refuses to uncouple from your "description":"Discussion of Farmall C PTO shaft seal part 2 in the Farmall & IHC Tractors forum followed by comments. When I removed the mid mower to use an implement off the rear, it was extremely difficult to release and pull off the mid pto drive shaft. "@type": "ImageObject", Your tractors model will factor in here, but well give some troubleshooting ideas for a Kubota tractor PTO not engaging fully. Morgan is our Office Manager. JavaScript is disabled. If you continue, youll risk damaging the PTO driveshaft or Remove And Replace PTO Seal Part 2 Kubota-2350DT-clutch-replacement-3 how to remove front axle Kubota B6001 Fixing a Twisted PTO Shaft How to Measure and Cut a Tractor PTO Shaft. Do brand new lawn mower blades need to be sharpened? It will also be good to note that every operator of PTO should have in mind the safety of those around when engaging the PTO. In some situations, just gentle hammering will get the stuck Thank you treemonkey ! Camarillo, California Nov 6, 2009 #2 With tractor shut off, reach in under the PTO guard and grab the end of the shaft that slides onto the PTO splines. That said, theres no shortage of DIY methods out there and where the weather took away the grease. I drilled a pilot hole(counter sink) in the center of the new bolt. You might need to try disconnecting the outside rod and using vise grips to exercise the lever. JavaScript is disabled. You will notice that the independent PTO is easier to engage than the transmission PTO. application of a penetrant) works like a charm most of the time. I have a heavy duty puller, a good grip on the gear, a 4' extension on the ratchet to turn the puller and heated the gear with propane torch (very hot) but not red hot. You do not want to end up with a damaged PTO shaft. You'll probably have to force the shaft back some in order to get the pin to release. Finally, attempt to turn the PTO shaft manually. attempts, pour some more oil down there or shoot some grease in there. Depressing plastic visible in four holes in vaned cone shield ring unsnaps plastic and allows leading edge of plastic bell to be peeled back thereby exposing PTO collar slide pin. Soak the shaft in Kroil or your favorite penetrating oil. This is not that complicated to do; so, you will get by with this problem if you are used to tinkering. let it sit for a few minutes, and then attempt to pull the uncooperative part If the shaft has slid forward further then it should, then the locking pin is probably bound into the metal on the tractor side of the slot. If the inner and outer shafts bottom out on each other, something has to give. If you see your question here on our list, then well give you some troubleshooting options as well as some likely successful tips in the following section of this article. "@type":"DiscussionForumPosting", I used the original bolt to bolt the gear back on. pull your stubborn power take-off (PTO) shaft out. Finally, if it went on it will also come off but may require a language challenge. What to do, oh my, what shall we do (with a drunken sailor)? PTO shaftsliding out in a short while. Remove the PTO shield from the tractor. You can begin by stepping on the clutch pedal and let your foot stay in that position. Lastly, ensure that you check the PTO safety guards for any damage. To check things out yourself, examine the hand lever for the clutch. In this way, you can ease it out of its engagement. Keep at it. 4. Is it straight to where it could be removed over the spline if desired, or is it pressed up against a step, requiring it to be pressed inwards towards the tractor for removal? You dont have to hit the PTO with so much force. However, just like any mechanical equipment, the PTO shaft may also get stuck to the tractor and may be difficult to disengage, especially if it has been sitting there for a long time. You'll see a safety shroud covering this area. "image": { The sleeve bearing on this shaft is also split for removal but it seems so stiff, I'm . Bottom line? Finally, attempt to turn the PTO shaft manually. The male driveshaft on the tractor has splines that mate with the female driveshaft on the implement. It's going to be tuff to get that gear off but I have done it. Wait some minutes for it to soften further and retry. When I say rearword I mean the shaft come out towards the back of the tractor. Thunder ! First, you need to knock out the pits to get enough elbow room. The combo of light taps and heat will make the stubborn PTO shaft give in. My guess is your PTO shaft is a tad too long. How do I remove the shaft? Most of the time, I hook left arm, right arm, pto shaft then top link. "@type": "InteractionCounter", Hit it with a hammer be sure to place a block of wood for Likely, though, your PTO is all mechanical and possesses two hand levers. If the RPMs are changing the engagement, it could be a weak seal. You can connect these pieces of equipment via the PTO shaft. My pto shaft was shot also. I think the metal piece you are referring to on the outside is the housing for the seal and doesn't come off. Its not Stay tuned for episode 3 coming up later. OrangeTractorTalks brings together Kubota enthusiasts from around the world, into one place, purpose built just for them. I'm onto phase 3 with this challenge. Welcome. Christian is one of our Parts Counter Personnel and a Certified Kubota Parts Pro. Is the key sheared ? He holds an Associate of Applied Science from Brazosport College. squirting oil generously, try some light taps with a sledge hammer. Check your warranty to see if this safety concern is covered. is used out (typically balls or pins) or cause it/them to disconnect. Knocking Noise When Braking at Low Speeds. When you raise the mower the shaft gets in a bind and jams the release pin into the tractor's shaft. That way I could bottom out the bolt before it got against the gear. You must log in or register to reply here. 1953 Minneapolis Moline ZAU. We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Lubes can be particularly effective for stuck tractor PTO The blades continue to turn because of their weight. "name": "Smarten_up" }, The engagement inside the rear gearbox is not actually being sensed. You have to pull the gear on the inside and the shaft will slide out. And it penetrates excellently. "publisher": { Looks like the someone welded a steel piece on for the seal, is this standard? When engaging a transmission or live PTO, you need to change your tractors transmission to neutral and engage the parking brake before even trying to hook the PTO shaft. I will start trying some of them in the morning. The front half of the shaft is still attached to the tractor and I am not sure how to remove it, and the manual hasn't shown up yet. Spray the shaft with plenty of lubricating oil to ease it up, Last resort is to drill it out and retap with a larger set screw. Thanks to all that have taken time to read this post. The tin seal once heated would turn red real quick letting it be swagged with a punch while red letting it come out pretty easy with no more fooling around. steady pulling tension (the chain is typically fixed to an immovable object). I have a question about the seal bore. You I tried to do it by myself and it was a disaster Also I highly recommend you have a helper to keep the unit straight and apply heat if necessary , All I wanted to accomplish was to replace a leaking shaft seal. The shaft should slide off of the PTO splines. I have noticed a couple times that the pin on the shaft will stick letting it slide past the groove on the pto shaft. This is a crucial reminder, for if you ignore it, you may end up witnessing a terrible accident that may be fatal or injurious to others or yourself. He is in AB Canada, While I am from Dayton Ohio. Always consult equipment operator's manual and follow safety instructions before operating or servicing any tractor or equipment, or attempting any task. . Simply attach the male plate of the PTO Link to your implement's drive-line then attach the female plate of the PTO Link to the tractor's PTO spline. Reach underneath the safety shroud and feel around the implement shaft coupling with your fingers. It will probably need to come out in pieces. Both looked fine on the cutter but when I went to replace the u-joints the yokes were twisted. That gear is really and truly 'on there'and doesn't want to come off in a conventional way. I used that pilot hole to center my 3 jaw puller. Ensure that you follow all the safety protocols and wear the necessary safety gear when engaged in the abovementioned methods for disengaging the PTO shaft. Am I missing something or is this the nature of the beast. }. Look at the practicability, cost, and above all, your safety Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. Refrain from forcing or wrestling the shaft away from the tractor by using a chain to tie up the PTO coupler, then driving forward the tractor to disengage the PTO coupler. Look where the PTO shaft of the implement connects to the PTO spindle on the tractor. That way I could bottom out the bolt before it got against the gear. Billy is our Delivery Driver and holds a CDL. your tractor. Then how do I pull it out with the shaft in my way? The pully seal was similar difficulty. Welcome! JavaScript is disabled. Lining up the grooves is easier if you turn the PTO shaft on the tractor (should be able to do this with . Had to do this to split the tractor. The onset of rust will indeed happen, especially if the PTO shafts are exposed to moisture, and you dont run the PTO shafts with grease for a long time. I bought a new bolt like the one that holds the gear on. As Charlie said, the big gear has to come off then the shaft will slide out rearword. Soak it with rust solvent and first try a hex wrench. Sat: 8:00 a.m. 4:00 p.m. Sun: Closed, Mon Fri: 7:30 a.m. 5:30 p.m. Its important to note that most of the discussed methods work only if the PTO shaft is still in good shape and not cracked/bent (a twisted shaft wont allow telescoping). S Sam427 New member Equipment I tried to do it by myself and it was a disaster Also I highly recommend you have a helper to keep the unit straight and apply heat if necessary , I would suggest heavy duty 3 jaw puller located into the three holes of the gear. power from the tractor to the implements behind it. Removed front loader to drop front wheel drive shaft. It will likely come off hard most of the way. Thanks for the update. "@type": "Person", Steps: Knock the pins out to have more working room. It has definitely gone on too far. "interactionType": "https://schema.org/CommentAction", Put a strap around the arm of puller so they dont slip off the gear. Why wont the PTO shaft turn, even after you engage the clutch and PTO light is on. Do I take the gear off so the shaft comes out the front? JavaScript is disabled. So now I just have a short section of the shaft connected (stuck) to the PTO shaft. However, if the hammering doesnt work, you can apply more momentum to your hammer to wiggle free the stuck PTO shaft. If the shaft wont yet be persuaded to get out even after No go. "datePublished": "2023-04-28", The BX Kubota is really tight area to access easily and can be very frustrating when either connecting or disconnecting the drive shaft on the pto. It will also aid in loosening the shaft. Dave None of this surprises me. Called West Kentucky Tractor parts and they thought it should be a five minute job. Still wont budge. The odds are that youll be successful. If you have to, remove the remaining part if it is stuck to the tractor, by soaking with penetrating oil, and or, pulling it off with the same method as above, or by cutting a slot, in the female coupling with an exhaust cutter, and then pulling. Plus, you will likely end with a spoiled When I get that gear off the shaftwhen I meet with Mr.Success again I'm gonna say how very grateful I am and ask to meet him again soon after. Then you can use a punch or such to drive the seal out towards the rear also. In his free time, Garrett enjoys fishing, grilling, and spending time outdoors on the Texas Gulf Coast. Home > Machinery > Agricultural Machineries > Tractors. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If it doesn't budge, pour more oil onto it. You have to pull the gear on the inside and the shaft will slide out. You can also use WD40 to soak the stubborn parts. I've tapped the pin with a hammer and/or used WD40. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Which way does the PTO shaft come out, front or backwards? Also, if the PTO clutch and gearbox are engaged, and the PTO still does not turn, then your problem is likely extensive. You can find the PTO switch on the dashboard. I suggest you heat the gear so it will release from shaft and pull easy. There are a couple different collar release methods and would suggest you google pto driveshaft or youtube to find what matches your shaft. Engage the parking brake and turn the ignition key off. Sometimes, you only need to give it a gentle nudge, and it will loosen up. Remove four bolts and pull out. I noticed on the gear someone touched it with a welding rod perhaps to heat it up I suspect. . My pto shaft was shot also. My pto shaft was shot also. This lowers the RPM to PTO speed and houses a shifter that engages and disengages the PTO. Point taken, except I'd have to burn out the rubber seal and the felt wiper. Copyright 2023 Leaf Group Ltd. / Leaf Group Media, All Rights Reserved. Never remove a PTO shaft from a running tractor. In her free time, she enjoys baking and reading. Kubota tractor PTO not engaging? Browse the site of the best Texas Kubota Dealer around! "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", Moreover, tractors with PTO driveshafts can pull any type of PTO-driven equipment. She went to Angelo State University and enjoys shopping, sipping raspberry tea, and spending time with family, friends, and her longhaired Dachshund named Remi. wiggle free. I have a heavy duty puller, a good grip on the gear, a 4' extension on the ratchet to turn the puller and heated the gear with propane torch (very hot) but not red hot. OrangeTractorTalks brings together Kubota enthusiasts from around the world, into one place, purpose built just for them. It might also be a bad clutch pack brake disc, which would not stop the clutch. It will likely come off hard most of the way. I would have just heated the seal. If not something has let it go to far on the shaft. You can hit the PTO shaft with a hammer, but make sure you position a wood block underneath the PTO shaft. The old style seal is very large and thick. When shifted one way, it should be free, turning very easily. Thanks. Yet, this type of independent PTOs comes with the risk of accidentally engaging the PTOs. Use materials with lubricating "height": 57 But when using more force, you should take extra precautions to avoid destroying the components of the shaft, including its bearings and other parts. Any advice on how to remove the PTO shaft from the housing?Looks like the someone welded a steel piece on for the seal, is this standard?Heat the hous . If your tractor is equipped with an independent PTO, you may go on with the succeeding steps mentioned below. Welcome. I used the original bolt to bolt the gear back on. "logo": { For most PTOs, there is no external adjustment. If your PTO shaft is stuck and youre using a tool to remove Aside from being cognizant of the abovementioned methods of disengaging stubborn PTO shafts, it will also help if you know the following additional tips: When farming or starting a farm, you will need some basic equipment to connect to your tractor to facilitate some farm works. It would be very tough to pull from the outside. Also make sure the keyways and shaft keyway are still line up ,this very critical to the gear coming off shaft . In fact, none of the attached equipment will work if it has But if the shaft doesnt budge, you need to sacrifice the coupler, yet you should do it as a last resort. Youll see a shaft going through the box located on the top left, and looking from the back, the shaft moves the shifter inside. Ensure that you turn off the tractors engine before you even dare remove the PTO shaft from it. It will be good to know that there are independent PTOs that come only with a PTO switch lever that acts as a switch. This is a difficult job! In this way, you can ease it out of its engagement. Assuming nothing else solves your dilemma, use a Had to line up three splined shafts at once when putting the two tractor halfs back together. The PTO shaft provides the implement with mechanical operating power. Then read over these commonly asked questions regarding how to engage a PTO on Kubota tractors when issues arise. "dateModified": "2023-04-28", I just did the same seal on my Super C. Pull that gear off, mine wasn t terrible. Now you can get a long pry bar or even two in Ensure that no one is at risk of being hurt or injured accidentally by the PTO engagement.

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